Broncos blown out again, 84-66

jayandbutton · 12-19-07, 06:04 PM

this is turning into the season from hell.

we fall to 1-5, blown out by 18 points to a team that yesterday was totally dominated by the coyotes.

now perhaps we can handicap whether the men or women will have the worst record?

xiaoxue · 12-20-07, 08:33 AM

wow, 1-5...i can't believe it. this looks like coach kamansky's first losing season ever. i left a sinking ship academically and athletically just in the nick of time. your ladies are floundering again too.

my titans are now 5-2 playing montana tonight. come on over and see team basketball. it's obvious that doesn't exist for the broncos anymore.

by the way, princeton review just listed fullerton as one of the best business programs in the nation, something pomona once had but lost when that crappy new dean appeared and ruined the graduate program. you guys need to clean house.

jayandbutton · 12-20-07, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xiaoxue

wow, 1-5...i can't believe it. this looks like coach kamansky's first losing season ever. i left a sinking ship academically and athletically just in the nick of time. your ladies are floundering again too.

my titans are now 5-2 playing montana tonight. come on over and see team basketball. it's obvious that doesn't exist for the broncos anymore.

by the way, princeton review just listed fullerton as one of the best business programs in the nation, something pomona once had but lost when that crappy new dean appeared and ruined the graduate program. you guys need to clean house.

okay, xiaoxue, you've taken your shots at bronco basketball over the years and now you kick our men at their worst. yes, we know that we stink, are not playing team basketball, and yes, please remind us that with the exhibitions we are actually 1-8 with the only win against a hapless 1-9 team that just moved up from DIII. the guys are still playing hard, and larry gordon is having a monster year full of double doubles.

and yes, we are both disgusted and ashamed at how poly academic ratings, particularly in business, have fallen into the basement. we once were on all the elite rankings, including princeton review and USNWR, but no more. we've been passed by almost everybody in the cal state system, but do you have any constructive suggestions or just more criticism?

at least we have a pretty campus, with a nice library addition coming in. we can be thankful for that.

the next thing you're going to do is go off about hervey again, or brag about beating montana for the second time this year.

give it a break, and have a merry christmas.

lakdod · 12-20-07, 09:55 PM

okay we stink right now, but as much as I hated the idea of the conference tournament it might be the broncos saving grace. if we can get enough conference wins to enter the conference tournament we just need to win it to make the tournament. which means there is still alot of potential with this team. IF they can start playing as a team they can be a very dangerous team in the conference tournament. heck if they win the conference tournament anything can happen in the ncaa tournament. so i am saying do not give up on the team yet. i have a feeling coach k will get this team together and will be a scary team to play near the end of the season. everybody enjoy the holidays and hopefully the new year will bring a turn of luck for the broncos

jayandbutton · 12-22-07, 09:27 PM

lakdod,

i can't see this happening. just to have a winning record of 13-12 here is what the broncos must do:

1. sweep the chico, sonoma and stanislaus series--and those are brutal road trips even for good teams.

2. sweep both sf and mbay on the road--and we couldn't do that at home.

3. sweep the home games with san diego, los angeles, and dominguez hills

4. beat le moyne at home, a team that already has five more victories than we do.

that means we must beat five league foes on the road, and lose only to the yotes and jacks at home.

and even if we do all these things we would finish around fifth or sixth in the league and miss the tourney.

will go to the game on the 30th but am not optimistic about our future. we likely will finish around 10-15.

xiaoxue · 12-23-07, 03:11 PM

you guys just don't want to face the truth no matter what it is.

lakdod, there's no way broncos make the tournament. have you noticed that seven league teams have winning records and you would need to finish in the top four? and then after that you would need to run the table?

jaybutt, you're being optimistic even looking at 10-15. predicting splits with teams that are 6-2 already is a reach, and 13-12 would require a return of jeff bonds from his pro team overseas.

me, i'm a realist. broncos go around 5-20, kamansky gets fed up with the total lack of campus support and takes a better job.

lakdod · 12-24-07, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xiaoxue

you guys just don't want to face the truth no matter what it is.

lakdod, there's no way broncos make the tournament. have you noticed that seven league teams have winning records and you would need to finish in the top four? and then after that you would need to run the table?

jaybutt, you're being optimistic even looking at 10-15. predicting splits with teams that are 6-2 already is a reach, and 13-12 would require a return of jeff bonds from his pro team overseas.

me, i'm a realist. broncos go around 5-20, kamansky gets fed up with the total lack of campus support and takes a better job.

I have seen and heard enough games this season to know that this team has the capability of being a good team. if each player can understand there role they are probally a top three team in the league. i no it will be hard to run the table in the ccaa tournament but any team can do it. look at some teams who make run in division i in conference tournament. plus the top 8 teams get in the ccaa tournament where the first round play at the top seed home court. i can see the broncos easily being the 8 seed. i would make a bet with anybody that the broncos will win more than 5 games this season. You being a realist I would disagree. I mean coach K never had a losing season. You think his first one is going to be that bad I highly doubt it. I do not know though if we lose coach k after this season hopefully we dont because he is one of the best coaches in the conferences.

jayandbutton · 12-25-07, 10:37 AM

we've beaten the team cohesion topic to death and everyone agrees that is job one.

here's another one: outside shooting. when your two starting guards are barely shooting thirty per cent from downtown you pack it in and frustrate our big man. he was ejected from the last game and that signalled another early foldo. we don't scare anybody from downtown like we did in the jboyd days.

donelle is shooting a whopping 26 per cent from the line and he's not very productive in other categories either. flashy players who are not fundamentally sound do not fit in the kamansky mold, but coach k. has few options unfortunately, so donelle does as much damage as good.

lakdod, the wwu announcers said it best. this is a physical team that looks like it could beat anyone. but sadly it prefers thus far to beat itself.

i predict we will handle this team from new york and dig out of the hole somewhat, probably making the round of four in the conference playoffs. but there are too many things to fix and too many teams with almost equal talent and a good headstart for this team now to realize its potential.

the other matter is the future. other schools are adding more scholarships, improving their web pages, adding radio and webcasts, upgrading their arenas, etc., while we seem to be going in the opposite direction. coach k. says he wasn't even able to schedule more than 25 games. xiaoxue, i only hope your prediction does not come true, but this outstanding coach deserves much better.

xiaoxue · 12-28-07, 03:02 PM

okay, jb, i promised not to talk about fullerton so let's make this a cal state question.

why is it that so many cal states with almost the same resources find ways to run successful division one programs when cal poly pomona struggles for mere respectability in division two?

i think it's leadership. the people i've seen at fullerton have their #@%#@! together and don't make up excuses like you see all the time at pomona. they find ways to make stuff happen.

who's playing sunday? i might drive over. talk me into it.

lakdod · 12-29-07, 08:24 AM

we all know that the school budget is not giving enough money to the athlethic program so this cause the lack of budget for the teams. Which means most of the problem begins with the top. i think the Athlethic office is doing their best with their budget, but they need more funnding. If you got to blame anyone it will be the top school officials which are causing many of the problems taking place within the school.

side note i was working at the golf course and and guess who I saw jay dr. ortiz. Just say I could not tell him how I feel because I was working.

CPP Hall of Fame · 01-05-08, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiaoxue

wow, 1-5...i can't believe it. this looks like coach kamansky's first losing season ever. i left a sinking ship academically and athletically just in the nick of time. your ladies are floundering again too.

my titans are now 5-2 playing montana tonight. come on over and see team basketball. it's obvious that doesn't exist for the broncos anymore.

by the way, princeton review just listed fullerton as one of the best business programs in the nation, something pomona once had but lost when that crappy new dean appeared and ruined the graduate program. you guys need to clean house.

X-man why are u on here talking about fullerton. i already told u to stay off this site if ur going to criticize cpp or talk about fullerton. by the way, the las time i checked fullerton womens bball is 2-11 and had lost 9 games in a row until they got a miracle victory last night. atleast our womens team is pulling it together and scott davis has them playing good right now and fighting to the bitter end. im sick of you man! get lost kid!!!

12-19-07, 06:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
jayandbutton Guru Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 606	Broncos blown out again, 84-66 this is turning into the season from hell. we fall to 1-5, blown out by 18 points to a team that yesterday was totally dominated by the coyotes. now perhaps we can handicap whether the men or women will have the worst record?

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12-20-07, 08:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
xiaoxue Enthusiast Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 492	wow, 1-5...i can't believe it. this looks like coach kamansky's first losing season ever. i left a sinking ship academically and athletically just in the nick of time. your ladies are floundering again too. my titans are now 5-2 playing montana tonight. come on over and see team basketball. it's obvious that doesn't exist for the broncos anymore. by the way, princeton review just listed fullerton as one of the best business programs in the nation, something pomona once had but lost when that crappy new dean appeared and ruined the graduate program. you guys need to clean house.

12-20-07, 09:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
lakdod Enthusiast Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Rowland Heights Posts: 494	okay we stink right now, but as much as I hated the idea of the conference tournament it might be the broncos saving grace. if we can get enough conference wins to enter the conference tournament we just need to win it to make the tournament. which means there is still alot of potential with this team. IF they can start playing as a team they can be a very dangerous team in the conference tournament. heck if they win the conference tournament anything can happen in the ncaa tournament. so i am saying do not give up on the team yet. i have a feeling coach k will get this team together and will be a scary team to play near the end of the season. everybody enjoy the holidays and hopefully the new year will bring a turn of luck for the broncos

12-22-07, 09:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
jayandbutton Guru Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 606	lakdod, i can't see this happening. just to have a winning record of 13-12 here is what the broncos must do: 1. sweep the chico, sonoma and stanislaus series--and those are brutal road trips even for good teams. 2. sweep both sf and mbay on the road--and we couldn't do that at home. 3. sweep the home games with san diego, los angeles, and dominguez hills 4. beat le moyne at home, a team that already has five more victories than we do. that means we must beat five league foes on the road, and lose only to the yotes and jacks at home. and even if we do all these things we would finish around fifth or sixth in the league and miss the tourney. will go to the game on the 30th but am not optimistic about our future. we likely will finish around 10-15.

12-23-07, 03:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
xiaoxue Enthusiast Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 492	you guys just don't want to face the truth no matter what it is. lakdod, there's no way broncos make the tournament. have you noticed that seven league teams have winning records and you would need to finish in the top four? and then after that you would need to run the table? jaybutt, you're being optimistic even looking at 10-15. predicting splits with teams that are 6-2 already is a reach, and 13-12 would require a return of jeff bonds from his pro team overseas. me, i'm a realist. broncos go around 5-20, kamansky gets fed up with the total lack of campus support and takes a better job.

12-25-07, 10:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
jayandbutton Guru Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 606	we've beaten the team cohesion topic to death and everyone agrees that is job one. here's another one: outside shooting. when your two starting guards are barely shooting thirty per cent from downtown you pack it in and frustrate our big man. he was ejected from the last game and that signalled another early foldo. we don't scare anybody from downtown like we did in the jboyd days. donelle is shooting a whopping 26 per cent from the line and he's not very productive in other categories either. flashy players who are not fundamentally sound do not fit in the kamansky mold, but coach k. has few options unfortunately, so donelle does as much damage as good. lakdod, the wwu announcers said it best. this is a physical team that looks like it could beat anyone. but sadly it prefers thus far to beat itself. i predict we will handle this team from new york and dig out of the hole somewhat, probably making the round of four in the conference playoffs. but there are too many things to fix and too many teams with almost equal talent and a good headstart for this team now to realize its potential. the other matter is the future. other schools are adding more scholarships, improving their web pages, adding radio and webcasts, upgrading their arenas, etc., while we seem to be going in the opposite direction. coach k. says he wasn't even able to schedule more than 25 games. xiaoxue, i only hope your prediction does not come true, but this outstanding coach deserves much better.

12-28-07, 03:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
xiaoxue Enthusiast Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 492	okay, jb, i promised not to talk about fullerton so let's make this a cal state question. why is it that so many cal states with almost the same resources find ways to run successful division one programs when cal poly pomona struggles for mere respectability in division two? i think it's leadership. the people i've seen at fullerton have their #@%#@! together and don't make up excuses like you see all the time at pomona. they find ways to make stuff happen. who's playing sunday? i might drive over. talk me into it.

12-29-07, 08:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
lakdod Enthusiast Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Rowland Heights Posts: 494	we all know that the school budget is not giving enough money to the athlethic program so this cause the lack of budget for the teams. Which means most of the problem begins with the top. i think the Athlethic office is doing their best with their budget, but they need more funnding. If you got to blame anyone it will be the top school officials which are causing many of the problems taking place within the school. side note i was working at the golf course and and guess who I saw jay dr. ortiz. Just say I could not tell him how I feel because I was working.