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ihavebigdik · 10-23-03, 10:43 AM

ho hum, i'm chinese..can i join? rofl =)
anyways, i'm not really fond of things like United Negro Christain Church, fellow chinatown church of christ, etc....we all human and stuff, can't we all just like don't care what ethnic group we are and just go to the same church?

=)
peace.

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Originally Posted by KayCee

Korea Campus Crusade for Christ in America (KCCC) is an inter-denominational ministry committed to helping to fulfill the Lord's Great Commission as stated in Matthew 28:18-20:

"All authority... has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit; and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

-(Matthew 28:18-20)

We are a branch of the CCC ministry of Korea, helping to reach Korean Americans with a vision to see all nations hear the message of Jesus Christ. We currently have thriving ministries in various regions of the US.

We welcome you as you visit us on the internet! We hope that you'll be able to find resources to build your relationship with Christ and encourage you to take part in His Great Commission!

KCCC Meeting

Date: Every Thursday
Location: Student Union - Centurion Room
Time: 6:30p.m.

JPWRana · 10-23-03, 02:36 PM

I KNOW!!! SERIOUSLY!!! WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF YOUR ETHIOPIAN, OR VENEZUELAN, OR POLISH?!?!? IF all three are of the same religion (catholic or christian just for argument sake), WHY DO WE NEED TO SEGREGATE THEM?!?!?!?

***Admin*** · 10-23-03, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ihavebigdik

ho hum, i'm chinese..can i join? rofl =)
anyways, i'm not really fond of things like United Negro Christain Church, fellow chinatown church of christ, etc....we all human and stuff, can't we all just like don't care what ethnic group we are and just go to the same church?

=)
peace.

That is not possible in the first place. Do you even realize how many denominations there are in christianity?

http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and...Denominations/

If all the denominations of christianity be united someday (which is never), then you can ask that question.

Edit: I have moved your thread to General Discussions.

Puffguts · 10-24-03, 12:02 AM

This is a very interesting topic! Religious institutions has always been segregated. For example, many Chinese American Christians in Diamond Bar go to service at the various Asian churches at Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights because a) the language barrier can be hard to break for new immigrants to attend a non-native language church b) usually the new immigrants are recruited by local faithfuls after arriving in the U.S. Guess which church are the Chinese speaking older immigrants bringing the new members to?

Then again, when culture meets culture, each will try to absorb the other unless the people are perfectly aware of our innate ethnocentrism and actively avoiding it, in real world that will almost never happen.

Even though I am not an active church goer, experience tells me churches and religious groups are not solely a gathering for religious activities only. Lots of times it is just another element of local social gathering where people can meet with like-minded fellows such as themselves. Since quite a number of people in each of the ethnic groups are first generation immigrants, then going to a church where it has their native language and customs would be a much more welcoming sight than one of another ethnicity (or culture). In the case for African Americans, racial issue is the barrier that segregates them from the caucasian churches (again, racial issues are often two way. I am not trying to imply "who discriminates who").

Caucasian/African American/Asian/Hispanic churches will stay that way as long as people feel uncomfortable with culture and customs that are unfamiliar to them (in this case, non-Koreans in the Korean Fellowship might feel alienated when conversations in Korean become frequent, or the members might be into Korean musics and movies that would be hard for the "outsiders" to enjoy).

I wish Prof. Allen from the Anthropology department visits this forum. He would do a much better job at explaining the frictions between cultures / religions / ethnic groups, in the U.S. or Worldwide.

Victor

JPWRana · 10-24-03, 01:59 PM

I am a Jehovah's Witness and our congregations are segregated ONLY by language, and thats because of OBVIOUS REASONS... a hispanic from Van Nuys who talks spanish can't really learn if he goes to an Armenian congregation if he were to go to Glendale.

Other than that, we don't segregate ourselves. When we have assemblies, all the spanish go together: whether they are mexican, or el salvadorian, or argentinan, or guatemalan, OR EVEN WHITE (thats if your white and chose 2 go 2 the spanish).

In the English assemblies, same thing: If your black, or white, or even chinese (born here and learned only english), we all congregate based on language, and it makes sense to (see my example above).

Even when I have gone to a different country and found other Brothers and Sisters, immediately, just because we have that relationship gives us a warmth and happy feeling on the inside (heck, some times they had even invited us to their house or to eat, even before getting to know them better), and YES, even though our cultures may be different (depending on where we live and where we meet), THAT DOES NOT mean that we exclude ourselves or isolate ourselves from other brothers and sisters who are lets say poorer, or more cultural, or conservate, etc.

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10-23-03, 02:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
JPWRana Guru Joined: Oct 2003 Location: where the 605 and 10 fwy's cross Posts: 884	I KNOW!!! SERIOUSLY!!! WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF YOUR ETHIOPIAN, OR VENEZUELAN, OR POLISH?!?!? IF all three are of the same religion (catholic or christian just for argument sake), WHY DO WE NEED TO SEGREGATE THEM?!?!?!?

10-24-03, 12:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Puffguts Active Member Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Chino Hills Posts: 140	This is a very interesting topic! Religious institutions has always been segregated. For example, many Chinese American Christians in Diamond Bar go to service at the various Asian churches at Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights because a) the language barrier can be hard to break for new immigrants to attend a non-native language church b) usually the new immigrants are recruited by local faithfuls after arriving in the U.S. Guess which church are the Chinese speaking older immigrants bringing the new members to? Then again, when culture meets culture, each will try to absorb the other unless the people are perfectly aware of our innate ethnocentrism and actively avoiding it, in real world that will almost never happen. Even though I am not an active church goer, experience tells me churches and religious groups are not solely a gathering for religious activities only. Lots of times it is just another element of local social gathering where people can meet with like-minded fellows such as themselves. Since quite a number of people in each of the ethnic groups are first generation immigrants, then going to a church where it has their native language and customs would be a much more welcoming sight than one of another ethnicity (or culture). In the case for African Americans, racial issue is the barrier that segregates them from the caucasian churches (again, racial issues are often two way. I am not trying to imply "who discriminates who"). Caucasian/African American/Asian/Hispanic churches will stay that way as long as people feel uncomfortable with culture and customs that are unfamiliar to them (in this case, non-Koreans in the Korean Fellowship might feel alienated when conversations in Korean become frequent, or the members might be into Korean musics and movies that would be hard for the "outsiders" to enjoy). I wish Prof. Allen from the Anthropology department visits this forum. He would do a much better job at explaining the frictions between cultures / religions / ethnic groups, in the U.S. or Worldwide. Victor

10-24-03, 01:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
JPWRana Guru Joined: Oct 2003 Location: where the 605 and 10 fwy's cross Posts: 884	I am a Jehovah's Witness and our congregations are segregated ONLY by language, and thats because of OBVIOUS REASONS... a hispanic from Van Nuys who talks spanish can't really learn if he goes to an Armenian congregation if he were to go to Glendale. Other than that, we don't segregate ourselves. When we have assemblies, all the spanish go together: whether they are mexican, or el salvadorian, or argentinan, or guatemalan, OR EVEN WHITE (thats if your white and chose 2 go 2 the spanish). In the English assemblies, same thing: If your black, or white, or even chinese (born here and learned only english), we all congregate based on language, and it makes sense to (see my example above). Even when I have gone to a different country and found other Brothers and Sisters, immediately, just because we have that relationship gives us a warmth and happy feeling on the inside (heck, some times they had even invited us to their house or to eat, even before getting to know them better), and YES, even though our cultures may be different (depending on where we live and where we meet), THAT DOES NOT mean that we exclude ourselves or isolate ourselves from other brothers and sisters who are lets say poorer, or more cultural, or conservate, etc.