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Old 10-29-04, 10:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I would also disagree with you about Bush's business acumen as it is widely recognized that he has been very fortunate in his business endeavors.
He has been very fortunate in that he was born into a rich and powerful family. So it doesn't matter if he's dumb as a post or not, his silver spoon will guarantee he will "succeed" in everything, eventually.


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If you want to vote for a man who likened Ho Chi Minh to George Washington that is your right, but don't champion Kerry as a saint when all he has done is criticize the man at the plate while he sits on the bench.
Excuse me, but where in this entire thread has ANYONE been portraying Kerry as a saint? A lot of people will be voting for Kerry because they don't want to give Bush another term, but no one's ever claimed he was a saint.


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Kerry has a plan and that is to raise taxes to pay for all of his utopian ideas. That sounds good when you are 19 and don't make any money, but when you start to really earn you will realize that you don't want to give the government any more than you have too. You would rather keep as much as you can because after all, you worked hard for it and you will resent the fact that you have to pay more in taxes to support the lazy and unmotivated.
Spoken like a true Republican puppet. So you're saying that the single mom who has to work her ass off for her children because her idiot husband ran off is lazy and unmotivated just because she's poor? She's not entitled to any city programs to help her kids stay off the streets because she has no time to spend with them? And how do you propose we fund all these wars when taxes are being cut? I guess we'll just yank the money out of education and public programs because if you're poor you don't deserve to have the same opportunities as the well-to-do. It's every man for himself, isn't it?
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Old 10-29-04, 11:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Were did they go? Nobody knows, but a good guess is Syria which is another Islamic extremist nation. Nobody needs to justify what we did and are doing in Iraq. Sadam kept his people in his Soverign nation as slaves, Sadam was a brutal dictator, murderer, rapist, precipator of genocide against the Kurds.
Look buddy, all evidence is stating that all weapons of mass destruction were properly destroyed and facilities were doing what they should have done, according to the UN restrictions. You can specilicate all you want, but until there's factual proof, it's unjustified.

Saddam was not a great dictator... but there are a lot of tyrants all over the world, and we have no right to invade anyone unless there is a threat. Their was a report that was recently released after 2 years and many billions of dollars of research that stated Iraq has no terrorist ties. But the Bush/Cheney still put a giant spin on it trying to dismiss it.

A no bid contract is bad business practice in a society of capitalism, where free markets are needed. Halliburton is sub-contracting out most of the work, the government shoulda have done the subcontracting at the very least.

I know plenty of people who take the SAT and do miserable and are still good people. But this man is a failure in college, a failure in business, you completely ignored his past failures. He has very little political experience. He has no credientials to be president. I'm just pointing out his history is horrible as an intellect.

What do you mean America doesn't have to justify invading Iraq? Killing 1000's of Americans, killing hundred's of thousands of Iraqis, violating the generva convention (the previously agreed upon world ethical law.), costing America over $200 billion (by 2004 end)... and as much as $350 billion dollars to the americans. That is over $1000 per a man/women/child, many of who don't work... increasing deficit greatly... hindering interest rates and business in the long run.

You really think the American government doesn't have to justify it? It's people like YOU that are the FAILURE of democracy by believing whatever BULLSHIT gets hashed out at you and not caring enough to get the other side. The American Government should justify EVERYTHING, otherwise they are prone to make mistakes and have no accountability. With no accountability corruption is inevitable, and our government will fall apart.

I understand this is your raw ideaolgy and a lot of it's ingrained in you character, and you're probably just getting thrown into a rage because you fail to see what I see. Perhaps in a few years you will find the errors in your judgement, perhaps not.... but you sure aren't going to find them today. I will not reply to anymore of your posts.
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Old 11-28-04, 10:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I watched the movie this weekend and I was overall, impressed by his documentary. First and foremost, a documentary that ridiculed the George Bush, our current president and his administration was impressive. I'm so glad that this film did get produced out to the theater.

The documentary informed the general publics many insightful facts about our government and the political system.
It is a Brave New World.
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It is disturbing that Michael Moore has garnered any credibility for his slurumentary on George W. Bush. Do any of you think that Michael Moore made that film because he just wants people to know the supposed truth? No. He made that film to make money. He is on a speaking tour for publicity because he is a sycophant as most hollywood types are and because he can milk $10G's a pop speaking at universities around our nation. He says that there is no terrorist threat. Really? I can think of over 3,000 families that had loved ones die on 09/11 that would beg to differ. What qualifications does Michael Moore have to comment on security threats to our nation? Is he better qualified to asses a threat than our commander-in-chief? Someone mentioned in a previous reply that George W. Bush allowed 9/11 to happen and used that as an excuse to go war mongering, are you kidding me. It is well documented that Bill CLinton had ample opportunities to obtain Osama Bin Laden, in fact the arabs offered to hand him over to the Clinton administration, but Clinton refused and in case you are wondering about my source, read the Book "The American Prophecies" for some hard facts.

Michael Moore is an opportunist and a fat sloppy one at that. He is not brilliant, or exceptional in any way, he is simply a critic who made a movie with a lot of conjecture and unsubstaintiated opinions disguised as facts.

George W. Bush is not perfect and he has made his share of mistakes along the way, but I believe that while he is not the most eloquent of speakers, he is honest and he wants the best for the people of this nation. Bush doesn't believe that everyone is entitled to something just because they were born here. He believes that if you work hard and pay your dues you can succeed and I believe that too. John Kerry believes that everyone is entitled to something whether they bust their butt or not. With that ideology what is the motivation to work hard, after all even if you are lazy you'll get yours from the government anyway, and you will get yours from the sweat off the backs of people who are motivated and work hard. I for one am tired of paying every lazy man or womans way. I went to college, paid my dues and worked hard to make good money and it took an enormous amount of sacrifice, but it has been worth it. My tax bracket is 40%, John Kerry and his wife paid a tax rate of 12% with an income in excess of $5,000,000, count the zero's folks. Kerry is a hypocrite and condems Bush for giving tax cuts to people like him. He wont get that tax bill repealed either because he will be trying to appeal to a Republican dominated Congress. During Bush's administration we saw the lowest mortgage interest rates in over 50 years which enabled home ownership to be at its highest rate ever. Bush's tax cuts put money in peoples pockets and I for one am for that idea. Kerry talked in his debates about the Bush administration outsourcing jobs, but did you know that john Kerry's family ownes 18 factories that are located outside the United States, talk about outsourcing! He should clean his own house before commenting on the cleanliness of his neighbors. John Kerry is an attorney as is his running mate. Folks,enough said.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." --Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of the Constitution.

I don't believe everything Michael Moore or John Kerry say about the Bush Administration. But then again, I don't eat everything the "commander in chief" feeds to the people. Control is this presidential cabinet's first priority. To control the masses is to hold the power, "the will of the people." You don't need much rationale to convince people into thinking that Saddam Hussein is a linked terrorist acomplice, or that the world is submerged in a pool of terrorism hidding in a nearby country, or that the war in Iraq is a just and fair war for the liberation of Iraqis. All you need, in order to convince the "American" people that all of this is true, is use the "values" appeal and people will follow. Values in "America" got Bush re-elected. Values in "America" drives young men to war. Values in "America" drives this country to the point of exploitation of other third world countries. Values in "America" call upon the name of "God" to revolt against the rest of the world, and our neighbors, if they don't agree with what we believe. Values in "America" got thousands killed on 9/11 and in Iraq.

The politically-driven religious right in "America" is going to get us all killed. It is extremist evangelicals that are running this country now and for as long as religion values continue to drive the majority of "America," we will always be in trouble.

So, now the question is, "ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country." -- JFK.
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