You feel like you are talking to a wall because, in a sense, you both are brick walls. Steve believes in logic and science, things you can prove can be believed. The whole basis of religion is having faith in something that, scientifically, cannot be proven. Therefore he refuses to believe in "religious truths". Jamarquez on the other hand has been raised with these religious thruths and has no reason to question them. What a person believes, is truth in his eyes. He therefore has no reason to doubt they are true. Neither side is will really listen to the other because they are just looking to "convert" the other side into their way of thinking.
Maybe a little bit of acknowledgement would go a long way in settling differences. You don't have to agree with the other person, but you could maybe try to understand what direction they are coming from.
I'm just playing peacemaker here. If you guys are enjoying your arguments then by all means continue.
